Well I finally broke down and deleted Deepworld today. I reinstalled it, which was only version 2.7. Then I did the holiday update. Which took me to 2.8.3. It just pops a gear up that doesn't move when I try to login. So I deleted it again and just installed it to version 2.7.0. Now it is actually checking my username and password to see if they exist in the system. I can't login, I don't think I ever created a password, bummer that. Is anyone else having problems with version 2.8.3?