Make no mistake, Egbert may be gone but another will pop up as long as this forum continues to have an ego problem. People will continue to feast on trolls to be "cool" or something unless big reforms happen.
Hopefully, mods help curb the deeper issues instead of just focusing on obvious trolls.
Maybe so, but the people encouraging Egbert ended up lightening the atmosphere, whereas the ones repeatedly beating the dead horse saying that they're a "tumour" only served to intensify the negative vibes.
Both were pretty bad, but if one had to pick, I'd rather people make the best out of the situation than intensify what is already negative.
Practically speaking, though, the devaluing of their attempts at "shock value" makes them just...useless, really. To give them outrage is to give them, quite literally, what they want. It solves nothing. Ignoring them is, of course, the best possible course of action. But again, if one had to pick, to rob a troll of their effect is better than to indulge in it.
Chicken, for once I actually agree with you. The more virtue signalling and appeal to the hive that happens, the more the trolls are fed. No good, at all, ever comes from doing that. It just makes the person look shallow and uninformed
Lets be honest here, I know you're referring to me in the second little bit but I'm not gonna sit around and let someone try trashing me because they didn't know I was still lurking. I'm here to make sure the really immature ones know I will let them know that is not okay. I personally agree with Chicken because I saw the (lets be real here) sex bot thread made by that childish troll and people were just supporting him. People are going to keep trashing this forum until someone sets their foot down. I'm just going to leave it at that because I'm not gonna go off on a tirade because of people that mean nothing.
Dominus, I find it a bit problematic that you choose to equate your behavior with your entire identity. The post was meant to tackle behavior, and only behavior.
On the subject of "letting then know that it is not ok", consider that these trolls already know and still choose to act that way. The reward of outrage is more than worth the violation to them. By doing this, you fall for them hook, line, and sinker. When a troll initiates, they initiate with knowledge of repercussions. All you really do is state the obvious.
I would argue as well that it is egotistic to assume that you played a part in EgbertRuperson's punishment, because to those that remember the thread before it got deleted, it is a fact that Mike's attention was called because EgbertRuperson himself was criticizing the administration, asking about why he hasn't been banned after 9 days. Mikelaurence responded with cluelessness, and had to be filled in by the arbiters. This also initiated a discussion about what changes can be done. This had nothing to do with you, and I would say that you are overestimating the worth of stating the painfully obvious.
I find it insulting as well, that you decide to trivialize me as a "person who means nothing" just because of my criticism of a constant trend of behavior on the forums. However, it does prove my point of the norm of disrespect that comes up here - so thank you.
I was specifically referring to those who constantly feel the need to "talk down" to trollers or portray themselves as morally superior in any manner. Recognize a troll and leave it be. Or don't. It's entertaining for me either way :)
There's literally no one who's going to disagree with you if you say that Egbert and llmmzz are trolls lmao. In fact, continually bringing them into the forefront just validates them. They could easily get buried through ignorance, but getting your "cool edgy diss" out seems more important than being practically effective around here.
Oh, and, while we're on the subject: if/when Iron does return, any and all references to this post or his behavior will be met with an empty mantra of "I don't care", proving the importance of pride over common decency.
I know some of you may think me as some old user who just comes out every now and then to sling some abuse, but honestly, that isn't any better than how everything currently is.